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virgin-helio.jpgVirgin Mobile USA will bail out rival "virtual" carrier Helio after all, the FT reports: The companies have agreed to a deal in principle and could announce it as early as this week.

The gist: Virgin will take over Helio's subscriber base and keep its own brand. Helio's majority owner SK Telecom (SKM) will invest a "nominal sum" in Virgin. (Financial details not yet reported.)

When we first heard about this deal in May, we thought it made sense -- we said the two operators could benefit from better scale, complementary services, better distribution, etc. Why wouldn't Virgin want Helio's cool phones and subscribers that spend $80 a month on service?

But after thinking about it some more -- and watching Apple (AAPL) announce a $199 3G iPhone that's better than anything Helio's ever offered, and watching interest in Helio continue to drop -- we're more inclined to agree with Pali Research analyst Walter Piecyk, who ripped the deal to shreds yesterday in a research note (registration required).

It always concerns us when companies move out of their comfort zone with a new strategy, particularly one as challenging as wireless resale. The unlimited rate plans and high end phones that Helio sells are now competing with unlimited rate plans recently launched by the major operators and high end phones like the iPhone, Blackberry and Instinct that are not available on Helio.

The biggest problems, outlined by Piecyk: Virgin Mobile is having a hard enough time eking out a profit in its existing business of selling cheap, pre-paid phone service, which is only going to get more competitive. (Virgin made $4.2 million on $1.2 billion of revenue last year.) And even once Helio is worked into Virgin's distribution network, it doesn't add much.

With only about 200,000 subscribers, Helio isn't going to do much to increase Virgin's 5 million subscribers, which means it won't have much more leverage when it tries to negotiate with wholesaler Sprint Nextel (S). So there goes the theoretical "scale" benefit. And Helio's P&L certainly won't help Virgin's numbers: Helio lost $327 million last year on $171 million of revenue.

Bottom line: Unless we're missing something huge, we don't see what Virgin is getting out of this -- other than the goodwill of Helio investors -- SK Telecom and EarthLink (ELNK) -- who've been watching their money disappear at an alarming rate.

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Image 0 en  - Virgin Mobile swallows Helio, Helio posts Q&A If you haven’t heard by now — Virgin Mobile is acquiring Helio for $39M — you’re really living under something… In any case, what’s going to happen to Helio’s 170,000 subscribers? Well, we’ve go a hold of an internal Helio Q&A which answers some of those concerns. A couple highlights? Helio subscribers service will not [...] [..] Read complete article
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Virgin Mobile's Desperate Hookup: Buys Helio For $39 Million In Stock
We won't know for a while if this was a steal or a ripoff, but Virgin Mobile USA has made it official: As expected, it's buying rival "virtual" mobile carrier Helio for $39 million in [..] Read complete article
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Virgin Mobile introduces unlimited calling plan (AP)
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Image 0 en  - Virgin Mobile facing more problems   As we’ve seen a number of smaller carriers and MVNO’s close their doors over the last 12 months, it’s clear that things aren’t so easy for the little guys in the American wireless business. The most recent carrier facing a bit of trouble looks to be Virgin Mobile. A recently leaked internal document reveals that [...] [..] Read complete article
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EarthLink Q2 Strong, Looking For Deals (ELNK)
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