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Send to email | On the Gaming-Academic Divide [Academia] in Academia Culture Game Design Industry Training | By Maggie Greene el 17-Aug-2008 | There are plenty of fields where the academic-'real world' divide is pretty sharp — and it's probably no surprise that game-related research falls into that category. Richard Bartle, MUD co-creator, criticizes universities who are resistant to change — while 'modern' universities (ones who developed from polytechnics or institutes, at least in the UK) are more willing to lead the way with creative courses, older institutions are less likely to follow suit: But it is possible to shift the paradigm, so why don't older institutions follow suit? For one thing, they don't consider games "academically respectable," Bartle asserts. For another, computer games staff don't get included in research assessment submissions, because there are no first-class journals specific to the medium — and, of course, major universities just don't see any money in it, he says. Bartle, who is currently a Principal Fellow and Visiting Professor at the Department of Computing and Electronic Systems at Essex University, explained ruefully: "None of this would matter if it were without consequences. Unfortunately, there are consequences." Modern universities focus on training in the way that vocational schools do, says Bartle, while older ones have a tradition of education. My first reaction is 'Well, duh.' Academia is built on tradition and regularity (there is a reason 'disciplines' have that name), so trailblazing a new path is not the easiest of tasks. Even a move to shift perceptions of 'standard' disciplines is likely to be met with suspicion and skepticism. On the other hand, many of those older or less progressive institutions are sloooowly coming around. But the process isn't going to happen overnight, and I wouldn't expect to see 'training in the way that vocational schools do' at an Ivy League institution near you any time soon. I'm also not convinced that's necessarily a bad thing - just as students flock to particular institutions to study under renowned experts in well-established fields, why wouldn't we expect the same out of people wishing to study gaming? MUD Co-Creator Bartle Criticizes Gaming And Academia Divide [GameSetWatch]

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| On the Gaming-Academic Divide [Academia] | | There are plenty of fields where the academic-'real world' divide is pretty sharp — and it's probably no surprise that game-related research falls into that category. Richard Bartle, MUD co-creator, criticizes universities who are resistant to change — w [..] Read complete article | ![Subscribe to On the Gaming-Academic Divide [Academia]](http://www.weeklybits.com/images/yaaqui3.gif) | Published 17-Aug-2008 by Maggie Greene in Academia Culture Game Design Industry Training Read 1 times. More hits in ![Images about On the Gaming-Academic Divide [Academia]](./images/photo.gif) |
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| Mapping the Future: Academia and Community [Academia] | | I've really been enjoying GameSetWatch's series called 'The Game Anthropologist,' which (among other things) looks at various gaming communities — this week is a look at one of my favorite blogs, Michael Abbott's The Brainy Gamer. We've looked at Abbott's efforts to create (pretty collect [..] Read complete article | ![Subscribe to On the Gaming-Academic Divide [Academia]](http://www.weeklybits.com/images/yaaqui3.gif) | Published 10-Aug-2008 by Maggie Greene in Academia Culture game studies Michael abbott Read 1 times. More hits in ![Images about Mapping the Future: Academia and Community [Academia]](./images/photo.gif) |
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| Traversing the Audience Gap [Culture] | | Chris Bateman of Only A Game has spent a not insignificant chunk of time talking about the 'hardcore/casual' divide — especially in terms of discussing the accuracy of such a distinction. As he points out, more complex models of how people like to play their games [..] Read complete article | ![Subscribe to On the Gaming-Academic Divide [Academia]](http://www.weeklybits.com/images/yaaqui3.gif) | Published 13-Sep-2008 by Maggie Greene in Culture Casual Games Hardcore Industry Survey Read 3 times. More hits in ![Images about Traversing the Audience Gap [Culture]](./images/photo.gif) |
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There's a lot of dissatisfaction regarding how games are reviewed coming from a number of quarters; there is an equally vociferous defense of the typical numerically-based reviews. Over at GameSetWatch, Simon Parkin takes up the issue of the reviewer-reader divide, especially in ter [..] Read complete article | ![Subscribe to On the Gaming-Academic Divide [Academia]](http://www.weeklybits.com/images/yaaqui3.gif) | Published 08-Jun-2008 by Maggie Greene in CultureGame reviewsscoring Read 4 times. More hits in ![Images about Towards a Better Game Review Structure [Criticism]](./images/photo.gif) |
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| Fan-Industry Interactions: the Case of Fallout [Academia] | | After a rather grueling year, I am taking a self-enforced vacation from academia for a few days to recharge. But if you're not, there's a pretty interesting PDF of an MA thesis floating around — the subject is fan-producer interaction in relation to games, specifically Fallout. I [..] Read complete article | ![Subscribe to On the Gaming-Academic Divide [Academia]](http://www.weeklybits.com/images/yaaqui3.gif) | Published 15-Jun-2008 by Maggie Greene in Academia Bethesda Culture Fallout Fallout 3 Fan Culture Game Development Read 6 times. More hits in ![Images about Fan-Industry Interactions: the Case of Fallout [Academia]](./images/photo.gif) |
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